Thursday, November 1, 2012

The Third Presidential Debate: Fact vs Fiction

During the Presidential debates, it is hard to imagine the pressure that the two candidates for the presidency feel, but sometimes the pressure may affect their facts or what they say. They said that Obama's plan was to be on attack, which he was while Romney was trying to make sure everyone knew that he was not a huge advocate of war. Mitt Romney's laid back approach was probably due to the fact of the momentum and increasing support of his campaign over the past couple weeks.

President Obama was said to have won the debate by a large majority, but polls have shown that Mitt Romney's first huge victory in the first presidential debate made him the overall winner of the three. Many facts and accusations were thrown out during the debate, and I think that the article and video (that are linked below) really help to decide what was fact and what was the truth.

FACT: In the ABC News video, it shows that Romney did say that Detroit needed to go through a managed bankruptcy stating, "The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk." President Obama insisted that Romney was not telling the truth about this, but he was incorrect.

FACT: Governor Romney also stated that, "I'm saying in terms of a geopolitical opponent, the nation that lines up with the world's worst actors. Of course, the greatest threat that the world faces is a nuclear Iran." The Governor was talking about Russia being the biggest geopolitical foe and competition in the UN rather than in nuclear or warfare of any kind. 

FACT: Massachusetts led in areas of Math and English scores of the National  Assessment of Educational Progress while Romney was governor, and the results continued to increase over the course of his tenure.

FACT: When President Obama said that happened 10 years earlier, he was referring to the 1993 state law that led to the creation of the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System. The law influenced the increase of money being invested into education and resulted in improved test scores over time. Obama was correct about the law being passed before Romney was elected as Governor, but the test scores are results from that plan and prospered through Romney's cuts of that program. 

FICTION: Mitt Romney stated that President Obama was silent during the students protests, but that is not correct. The President spoke twice saying that he was "deeply troubled" by what he was seeing on 6/15/09 and was quoted eleven days later saying, "Despite the (Iranian) government's efforts to keep the world from bearing witness to that violence, we see it and we condemn it." He was later quoted in December that saying that The United States was joining with the international community to condemn the violence and suppression of the innocent." Governor Romney was wrong about the President being silent.

MOSTLY FICTION: President Obama stated that Governor Romney agreed with his plan of sending troops into Libya and that Romney wanted to take the troops out before Qaddafi was taken out of power or defeated. Romney previously stated that he support President Obama's "specific, limited mission", which he said the President had defined "as humanitarian: We would enforce a no-fly zone to prevent Libyan forces from bombing civilians. I support that." Romney also stated that "to succeed, Qaddafi must go and go for good", and attacked the President, saying, "it is apparent that our military is engaged in much more than enforcing a no-fly zone." President Obama was not correct when criticizing what Romney said previously on Lybia and Qaddafi.

MOSTLY FICTION: In President Obama's first trips after being elected, he did in various speeches and interviews acknowledge mistakes made by the United States. An example is found when he was in Cairo, "Nine-eleven was an enormous trauma to our country. The fear and anger that it provided was understandable, but in some cases, it led us to act contrary to our traditions and our ideals. We are taking concrete actions to change course." Many are saying that this is far from an apology tour. President Obama never technically apologized for the actions of the United States.

MOSTLY FICTION: President Obama stated the Governor Romney, a few weeks ago, said that he thought there needed to be more troops in Iraq right now. Mitt Romney has never said such a comment, but did state back in March that we should have negotiated  an agreement with the Iraqis that would have allowed a follow-on force of about 20,000 troops after the withdrawal of combat forces. The President's Administration actually attempted to negotiate such an agreement but the talks failed.


 An ABC News video that reviews the fact and fiction of the debate.

An  Washington Post article full of graphs that display data from the third debate.




-Grant Ausbury

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